IN CONVERSATION

Completion Date: (Aug 8th)
Location: 4 W Broad St.
Richmond, VA 23220

Lead Photographer: Katrina Taggart-Hecksher


Hamilton Glass and Matt Lively started their conversation around our upbringing and where we grew up. That quickly turned to what toys we had and TV shows we each watched as kids. We found that our toys and shows were similar but with slight differences. Growing up in Philly, toy guns were potentially dangerous for a young black kid to play with because it could give an unobservant police officer reason to shoot. The only toy Matt had to worry about was the now illegal Lawn Dart. There was folklore around Lawn Darts – everyone supposedly knew someone who knew someone killed by one. Hamilton cracked open fire hydrants to cool off in the summer, and Matt had a sprinkler to run through in the yard. Matt watched the Jetsons excited about the future the show depicted. Ham watched it too but pointed out that “there were no black people in the future”. Having these conversation made them a little closer to being able to be empathic with one another on not just the childhood elements but their total world views.


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“ I am hoping we are able to embody pieces of our first conversation about racial justice through our collaboration. That conversation gave me a bit of hope and made me dig bit deeper into the definition of empathy.” - Hamilton Glass